Comments on: Oracle ApEx and BI Publisher http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/ Delivered Intelligence Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:47:41 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Nathan Morgan http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-5199 Nathan Morgan Thu, 15 May 2008 13:07:47 +0000 http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/#comment-5199 Francis, for APEX and BIP integration the minimum versions are APEX 10.3 with BIP 10.1.3.2 "Application Express 3.0 introduced the ability to export a report region to PDF - essentially, printing a report." " The minimum required version of BI Publisher, that supports integration with Oracle Application Express, is version 10.1.3.2. XML Publisher was renamed to BI Publisher with the 10.1.3.2 release. XML Publisher 5.6.2 does not support integration with Oracle Application Express, it cannot be used as the PDF rendering engine." from http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/application_express/html/configure_printing.html Francis, for APEX and BIP integration the minimum versions are APEX 10.3 with BIP 10.1.3.2
“Application Express 3.0 introduced the ability to export a report region to PDF – essentially, printing a report.”
” The minimum required version of BI Publisher, that supports integration with Oracle Application Express, is version 10.1.3.2. XML Publisher was renamed to BI Publisher with the 10.1.3.2 release. XML Publisher 5.6.2 does not support integration with Oracle Application Express, it cannot be used as the PDF rendering engine.”
from
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/application_express/html/configure_printing.html

]]> By: Linda http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-5196 Linda Thu, 15 May 2008 01:56:04 +0000 http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/#comment-5196 I forgot to say that I was able to get this to work by joining the 2 tables in my query 1 and group by the id in query 1. I pulled the "master" columns out of the grouped table and placed them in the section above the table with the ID column. The mutliple details for each master then displayed in a table below the master. My concern though, is that in the next iteration of our product, there will be additional types of details that will also need to display. I did not think that I could join all of these in query 1 and do multiple group by's. So I was wondering if I could have multiple queries instead that are linked to the master query within bi pub. thx, Linda I forgot to say that I was able to get this to work by joining the 2 tables in my query 1 and group by the id in query 1. I pulled the “master” columns out of the grouped table and placed them in the section above the table with the ID column. The mutliple details for each master then displayed in a table below the master. My concern though, is that in the next iteration of our product, there will be additional types of details that will also need to display. I did not think that I could join all of these in query 1 and do multiple group by’s. So I was wondering if I could have multiple queries instead that are linked to the master query within bi pub. thx, Linda

]]> By: Linda http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-5195 Linda Thu, 15 May 2008 01:50:07 +0000 http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/#comment-5195 I have a similar question as Sander. I am new to apex and bi pub. I see in apex that I can have multiple queries on the report query section in shared components. How can I link those 2 queries together using the join field as a master detail so that I can print a master/detail one per page for multiple masters sent from apex? I have a similar question as Sander. I am new to apex and bi pub. I see in apex that I can have multiple queries on the report query section in shared components. How can I link those 2 queries together using the join field as a master detail so that I can print a master/detail one per page for multiple masters sent from apex?

]]> By: Sander http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-5031 Sander Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:26:13 +0000 http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/#comment-5031 Oops, the XML of my example in the previous post is 'interpreted' ... I meant something like this: G_INVOICE_LIST G_INVOICE TAG1 TAG2 G_INVOICE_LINE_LIST G_INVOICE_LINE LINENUMBER TAG3 TAG4 /G_INVOICE_LINE G_INVOICE_LINE LINENUMBER TAG3 TAG4 /G_INVOICE_LINE /G_INVOICE_LINE_LIST /G_INVOICE /G_INVOICE_LIST Sorry :) Thx, Sander Oops, the XML of my example in the previous post is ‘interpreted’ …

I meant something like this:
G_INVOICE_LIST
G_INVOICE
TAG1
TAG2
G_INVOICE_LINE_LIST
G_INVOICE_LINE
LINENUMBER
TAG3
TAG4
/G_INVOICE_LINE
G_INVOICE_LINE
LINENUMBER
TAG3
TAG4
/G_INVOICE_LINE
/G_INVOICE_LINE_LIST
/G_INVOICE
/G_INVOICE_LIST

Sorry :)

Thx,
Sander

]]> By: Sander http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-5030 Sander Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:21:17 +0000 http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/#comment-5030 Hi Mark, Currently I am using BIP happily in an APEX application. Although my setup is a bit different, BIP indeed gives me great reports. But how does one formulate a query that returns a XML structure that contains multiple nested groups? For example something line this: bla bla 1 bla bla 2 bla bla Right now I use a stored procedure for this but a single query is perhaps (!?) more convenient. BTW: Have you ever tried to generated a Table Of Contents using a RTF file? My experience is that it always pops up at the bottom of the document and not were I put it: at the top of te document. Thx, Sander Hi Mark,

Currently I am using BIP happily in an APEX application. Although my setup is a bit different, BIP indeed gives me great reports.
But how does one formulate a query that returns a XML structure that contains multiple nested groups?

For example something line this:

bla
bla

1
bla
bla

2
bla
bla

Right now I use a stored procedure for this but a single query is perhaps (!?) more convenient.

BTW: Have you ever tried to generated a Table Of Contents using a RTF file? My experience is that it always pops up at the bottom of the document and not were I put it: at the top of te document.

Thx,
Sander

]]> By: Mark Rittman http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-5017 Mark Rittman Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:25:58 +0000 http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/#comment-5017 Hi Manish, I've seen BIP used on a few client sites now, my understanding is that most of them are very happy with BI Publisher. They often tend to manually add tags and so on to templates rather than rely on the wizards etc, but for general client-side reporting, it's fine (and they're generally much happier than when they used Reports). Francis - not sure about licensing, I think you'll find that there are minimum named user levels, it's usually around a minumum of five named users, but it can often be higher (10,25 or so) - unfortunately your Oracle sales rep is the best source of this information. In terms of version, I've been using BIP 10.1.3.2 and higher for ApEx integration, not sure about earlier releases. regards, Mark Hi Manish,

I’ve seen BIP used on a few client sites now, my understanding is that most of them are very happy with BI Publisher. They often tend to manually add tags and so on to templates rather than rely on the wizards etc, but for general client-side reporting, it’s fine (and they’re generally much happier than when they used Reports).

Francis – not sure about licensing, I think you’ll find that there are minimum named user levels, it’s usually around a minumum of five named users, but it can often be higher (10,25 or so) – unfortunately your Oracle sales rep is the best source of this information. In terms of version, I’ve been using BIP 10.1.3.2 and higher for ApEx integration, not sure about earlier releases.

regards, Mark

]]> By: Francis http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-5011 Francis Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:11:56 +0000 http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/#comment-5011 Hi Mark, Very interesting. In order to use BI Publisher with APEX, what version of BIP do we need ? Can we have a 1 user license to develop the templates and use a runtime version for production ? Thanks Francis. P.S. Talking to Oracle Sales about APEX is sometimes complicated since they don't really know the product. Hi Mark,

Very interesting.

In order to use BI Publisher with APEX, what version of BIP do we need ?

Can we have a 1 user license to develop the templates and use a runtime version for production ?

Thanks

Francis.

P.S. Talking to Oracle Sales about APEX is sometimes complicated since they don’t really know the product.

]]> By: Tyler Muth http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-4977 Tyler Muth Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:16:19 +0000 http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/#comment-4977 Manish, I just finished my first REAL project with BI Publisher and APEX (internal app at Oracle). I have to say that I was really impressed with how easy it was to produce exactly the output I was looking for. Now, anyone who knows me knows that I work for Oracle (at least my badge still worked today), but all BS and marketing aside, this product really works. Tyler Manish,

I just finished my first REAL project with BI Publisher and APEX (internal app at Oracle). I have to say that I was really impressed with how easy it was to produce exactly the output I was looking for. Now, anyone who knows me knows that I work for Oracle (at least my badge still worked today), but all BS and marketing aside, this product really works.

Tyler

]]> By: Manish http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-4972 Manish Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:47:50 +0000 http://www.rittmanmead.com/2008/04/21/oracle-apex-and-bi-publisher/#comment-4972 Mark, While Oracle is marketing BIP heavily, I have heard/read comments in various avenues about how using BIP Desktop (MS-Word) to layout reports is NOT really production-ready (to put it mildly). In your travels, have you seen BIP successfully being used in place of Oracle Reports for production reporting to generate customer facing as well as operational reports? Manish Mark,

While Oracle is marketing BIP heavily, I have heard/read comments in various avenues about how using BIP Desktop (MS-Word) to layout reports is NOT really production-ready (to put it mildly).

In your travels, have you seen BIP successfully being used in place of Oracle Reports for production reporting to generate customer facing as well as operational reports?

Manish

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